Blogging, PRs, Brands and All Of That.

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I’ve been thinking about this post all morning since I saw a fantastic feature by another blogger, Bonnie Garner, HERE, about her experiences as a blogger with brands at a trade show.

Her experiences veered wildly from being treated with utter indifference on announcing that she is a blogger, to the other end of the spectrum and being told all she could ever want to know about products. Interestingly, she points out that where she was treated with the most kindness was with an Irish brand, and that, I think, is because Ireland ‘gets’ blogs in a way that many other countries still don’t. I was nodding in agreement with almost everything that Bonnie said, particularly the parts where she clarifies why she blogs.

So, that made me think about how bloggers are treated here and whether how we behave as citizen beauty journalists affects how brands treat us and whether we can be our own worst enemies when it comes to having a beauty blog, and also clarifying in my own head about why I’m blogging at all. I almost wish I’d never read the feature because now I can’t get it out of my head and these are big questions to be answered!

The blogosphere is split in the UK between a relatively small number of established blogs with thousands of readers and many, many smaller blogs with smaller readerships. Some blogs are now brands in their own right and act as the umbrella for the term blogger. I hate to use the words ‘bigger’ and ‘smaller’ in blogging but it’s relevant here because what brands want to do is chase the bigger blogs for their numbers, not their words. And where they are concerned, brands can’t get on their blogs fast enough because the ‘word of mouth’ buzz that blogs can create is proven and established.

Established bloggers have spent years working on their sites – it’s rare that a blog goes from zero to hero in a few months. This is not a trodden path; it’s one that is still being created one footstep at a time – leading the way through longevity and innovation is something that comes with mistakes and learnings, many of which happen in a public arena and create ripples through the blogosphere. It’s thanks, in part, to established bloggers carving the path and passing on their learnings, that on the whole, beauty bloggers have a legitimate place in the beauty industry.

But for brands who’ve had their fingers burned, I can see why they might baulk at blogger outreach or view bloggers with disdain. Bloggers who send brands ‘shopping lists’ – it still happens. Bloggers who are nothing short of rude when they’re told no – it still happens. Bloggers who ‘threaten’ brands – it still happens. Bloggers who aren’t even bloggers who call in products – it still happens. Bloggers who complain that there wasn’t enough champagne at an event – that actually happened! Most brands accept that honest reviews can go either way so the reviews aren’t the issue. However, brands can often be contemptuous of bloggers, labelling all under the same umbrella, when 99% of bloggers take what they do seriously and review with respect.

Which brings me round to the way that PR has changed to incorporate bloggers. Some use the scattergun approach – send out enough releases and product and you’re very likely to get some traction in terms of coverage. Others are more selective – and that’s a positive thing because they’re investing time in relationship building and recognising that blogging is a key area of media that’s going to pay dividends down the blogger line for years to come. However, just say the word ‘blogger’ still, and you can hear the energy fall out of the voice at the other end of the phone; it’s happened to me so many times I can’t even count. I’ve overheard conversations (no, I don’t have a glass to the wall!) where blogs are clearly considered easy PR. “Oh, we’ll just send it to the bloggers and that’s the coverage taken care of..”. In the world before blogs, mass send outs were no guarantee of print coverage – everyone had to work harder on relationships and now they don’t. The PRs are the guardians between the brands and the bloggers – and as the brands are the ones who pay the bills, that’s the primary relationship. Which then makes being discerning about what you blog about and how you blog even more difficult.

In many ways, I’ve pared back how I’m blogging to how I used to blog – I’ve been through all the variants in between on this path and what sits most comfortably with me is to take it back to nearly the beginning, where it’s about talking with anyone and everyone about beauty. It’s really quite simple; I know I don’t want to talk ‘at’, I want to talk ‘with’ and that connections with women who have that same common interest is more personally valuable in terms of validating what I’m doing than any work with brands. There’s a commercial side to my blog and where products and brands (in my view) genuinely bring something to the beauty table, it’s not a dilemma about whether to work with them commercially. Nonetheless, I’m turning down more commercial opportunities than I’m taking rather than wondering if there is a way I can make it work. I want to walk this path without being influenced by what others are doing so I don’t really look any more (peer pressure has been an on-going ememy – entirely self-inflicted, I might add) and I’ve no doubt I’ll continue to make clanging mistakes along the way! I’ve got some very good relationships with brands and PRs which makes saying what you really think quite awkward, but nonetheless, I don’t work for the brands and I don’t work for the PRs. I work for anyone who cares to read BBB. I don’t really look at my stats any more – in fact, Google Analytics fell off my blog last year and I’ve never bothered to put it back.

Which then does answer the initial questions right back at the beginning of this tome – not playing ball or not playing quite how the brands and PRs would like you to play will make you your own worst enemy in terms of leverage, but it will also make you your own best friend in terms of integrity. How we behave in the blogosphere does affect brand and blogger relationships – there’s no doubt about that, but you can’t herd rabbits – thank god! And as individuals, we’re not responsible for how anyone else behaves, only ourselves. I think we just have to keep doing what we’re doing in our own way and let the PRs and brand sort it out for themselves. Just as there are different remits for blogging, there will always be different remits for outreach.

I stopped writing posts like these for a long while; they can be very divisive and I also wonder what non-bloggers who read them make of the blogosphere because of them. But as part of paring back to how it used to be, I want to bring the blogosphere and general blogging discussion back a bit more. Sharing learnings and experiences has to be good, right?


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17 responses to “Blogging, PRs, Brands and All Of That.”

  1. So glad you’ve started writing these posts again as I find them so insightful and informative! xx

  2. Love this article. When it comes to blogging, integrity of writing wins with me every time. x

  3. I love this kind of post on your blog! Your so right though. I really enjoyed reading this so thanks for writing it xx

  4. Andrew James

    I have to agree i do love these kinds of posts

  5. Laura Petit-moi

    This is such a fantastic post, thank you. It’s so nice to see something so honest, and to the point

    Definitely glad you’re going to do posts of this type again

  6. sabina

    I have an online shop ( Non UK ) and a blogger ordered from my site, used the product, ruined it, then she wanted the money back and also threatened to post negative publicity. Now, in my country, this is blackmail and she will suffer the consequences. I have also been asked for free product quite blatantly, and I said no. So, I can empathise with some brands, since the general impression on bloggers is not a good one, but few people are like you Jane ( by that I mean classy )

  7. It’s so nice to participate in this debate with you.
    Like you I find it so important for bloggers to manage the relationship with brands without it losing my independence to write an honest point of view about the products and services I choose to review.
    I’m also so happy that a person with such a well established and well known blog like yourself is as concerned as I am about this type of issue. It’s reassuring as a reader of your blog and reassuring as a blogger myself. 🙂

  8. blatherandbeauty

    I love these posts, so honest and informative.

  9. As always, Jane, you raise interesting questions. I would like to add my experience as I author 2 blogs in 2 very different categories, and the difference is chalk and cheese between the two on the attitude of bloggers, their motives for blogging and the way that the industry that they are in treats them. Obviously, I can only comment on those 2 categories rather than all subject areas, but I think that alot of the issues that you mention are directly related to the size of the marketing budgets in the sector, ie it is the industry that has spawned the less desirous behaviour it now suffers. As well as my beauty/lifestyle blog, I run a crafting blog. Both blogs are read primarily by women, and both by generally more mature women (and by that I mean not teens/twenties). In the craft world, my fellow bloggers are hugely motivated by sharing what they have created themselves with like-minded folk. Yes, there is a lot of shopping chat about new products but the manufacturers/producers in this sector hardly ever pr-campaign the bloggers. In fact, the bloggers fall over themselves for the opportunity to have their work show-cased by a manufacturer/producer and often have to go through long and very competitive processes for the privilege of supplying the manufacturer/producer with free samples of the blogger’s own work (not the other way around)! You could not get a greater contrast than with the beauty industry. So, in a very long-winded way, I think that the beauty industry is to certain extent, reaping what it has sewn. Dips of http://www.DipsDelectus.com and http://www.DipsDesigns.com

  10. Olivia

    I am just a blogger first, I am no special beauty blogger or beauty guru. I do respect people but if people treat me like shit then you will get the same from me.

    As for PR, I do get press releases and some just are generic. I know they want the word out and from the wording, they don’t want to send out the samples or don’t have any left for a little blog like mine. Which is probably okay because I wouldn’t want to waste time reviewing something I didn’t care for.

    As for brands which intrigue me after their press release, I do contact them and hope and pray that I can test a sample. When they do send one out, I remember the brand more and I enjoy reviewing the product because it satisfied my curiosity. Therefore, no boring review.

    Do I sometimes wish I could get some big brands to send me samples? Sure, I have contacted some but the answer is no. I think this is peer pressure. If I am not reviewing what everyone else is reviewing then my blog is crap. But then, I think, why do I want to be like everyone else?

    I can tell you, walking your own path is hard, but I also have to say it is the most fun because there are no rules only the ones you feel is right. I think not only in blogging but as humans, we have lost the adventure of just trying to do something different.

    I love your blog because you give me a peek into practically every brand from every country. If you are going to walk your own path with this blog, then do it! I will read every adventure with you. I think at our age and I am assuming we are the same generation, we are wise enough to create and maybe change the virtual world of blogging. You deserve to do it and can do it!

    Sorry for the long comment and going off subject. Such a bad habit for me!

    1. Jane

      thank you always for your comments – I’ve so much respect for your blog x

  11. Jenna

    I’m really glad you’ve started to write these types of posts again. It’s great to see it from your point of view and you’re refreshing attitude to blogging. It’s all too easy for people to get caught up in the freebies and commercial opportunities. For me it’s fab to see a blog talk from the heart about product they love rather than the brands that send them free products or take them to gigs or press trips. I’d hate for blogs to turn into advertising machines, it’s just not what they’re about for me.

  12. Jenni Retourne

    Really interesting post Jane and you raise some great points (as always). I’d like to expand on where you say: “In the world before blogs… everyone had to work harder on relationships and now they don’t.” For those that don’t work hard on (or respect) their blog outreach activity, I don’t believe they experience the full potential of blogs in the same way as PRs who completely ‘get’ blogs do.

    As you know, I work solely on blog PR campaigns (I don’t offer print PR services at all) and have done for over 4 years. One of the most valuable parts of my business – and what I guard with my life! – is my relationships with bloggers; without these relationships my business would be nothing. I never do mass mail-outs and I always take the time to understand the individual approaches of each of the bloggers I am in contact with.

    I have the utmost respect for bloggers and I know that each of their blogs is their individual space – and certainly not a sales vehicle for a brand’s promo messages. I believe that us PRs need to take the approach ‘What’s in it for the blogger?’ not ‘What’s in it for me?’ (and this approach applies to all areas of life where you are asking something of someone). If I don’t feel something that I am promoting is relevant to a blogger, I won’t waste their time approaching them with it.

    If a client asks me to approach bloggers/promote information in a way that I am not comfortable with, I will say so (and explain my reasons) rather than doing it to keep my client happy and upsetting my relationships with bloggers along the way. Yes, the client is the one paying the bills and my client relationships are obviously vitally important to me, but this doesn’t take precedence over my blogger relationships. After all, it is in my clients’ best interests too, as without my relationships with bloggers I wouldn’t be able to deliver the results my clients expect from me.

    Hopefully, brands/PRs and bloggers working together with mutual respect will only increase and this can only help in blogs being more widely viewed by brands/PRs with the perception it deserves; as a serious form of media in its own right.

  13. Jeez Louise

    Hi Jane,

    What a great post! I am not a beauty blogger but I do share my thoughts on skincare and products which I have used with others, either on blogs or on Instagram. I like the feel of community on Instagram and on YouTube, whether you’re a blogger or not, there is a nice feel of community. I follow a few people on YouTube, Essie Button, Vivanna, Amelia and a few others( I never comment on their videos, just watch), however out of them all I could easily give them all up and watch you and read your blog. When I’m watching your YT videos, there’s no staged background and it doesn’t feel scripted, it just feels like we’re having a chat over coffee at a table and this is the feel that I get from your blog too. When you share a product I believe what you’re saying, and your opinion on that product. I also feel the same way about Rebecca over at RougePout. A lot of the blogs I follow actually review products and share their thoughts, yet some how, these blogs and bloggers are not as big as other ones that don’t do this as much. I like haul video’s and posts but a lot of the time there is no substance along with it. I find it quite odd how some of the popular blogs actually get to deal with brands when half of the time they’re not even reviewing them, just showing what they received.

    I am a book blogger and reviewer, for years I have reviewed books and I decided to get into that community. I now chat daily with publicists, publishing houses and authors, I do a lot of promo work, tours etc with them. I do get a lot of books come through my letterbox and the pressure sometimes is worse than full time paid job. What I review and the things I have to say makes a huge difference to sales and the impact on the authors themselves. I can relate to a lot of the things you’ve said, as it can be applied to other bloggers too. Sometimes I have questioned why I do it, why I continue to work hard on creating content and keeping things fresh, it’s hard work but I think I’d miss it if I stopped.

    Keep doing your thing Jane, you’re doing it right!

    1. Jane

      Thanks.. what a lovely and supportive comment! Really appreciated. Oh and please tell me your book blog.. am an avid book reader – if you don’t want to put it in here, please could you email it to me britishbeautyblogger@gmail.com – would love to look at it x

  14. Nicola Leadbeater

    Please keep doing things your way. I love reading your blog and watching your videos. There is no falseness just an honest love of beauty and quality products.

  15. Great post Jane, this is SUCH an interesting subject for us. We have been blogging at TWR for six years and sometimes I wonder if we’ve not just come round in a full circle this year. Just like you, we’re finding -after a few years of attempting to build relationships with brands we love and having mixed success- we are better off just writing about the stuff we love.
    Some brands get us, often the smaller independent ones, and I have to say, beauty has been a whole lot more welcoming than fashion for us more grown up women, but others still seem to be unsure about connecting with the world of blogs. In the end, it IS still all about why we set our blog up in the first place, honest comment on product and life, if it takes another five years for brands and PRs to get that then so be it. Meanwhile we’ll just carry on doing our thing. A
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