Affiliates, Anomalies and Explanations

I’ve been using affiliate linking for several years – believe me, it’s as much a mystery to users as it is to everyone else. But, events took a bit of a turn this week when I noticed that my Pat McGrath affiliate link produced only 4 sales (totalling approx. £4 in affiliate earnings) which seemed strange because the post had been viewed over 3 thousand times on my site and 9 thousand times on my Instagram, sending between them about 2.5 thousand links to the Pat McGrath website.

I queried this with the affiliate agent, Reward Style, and was told that linking was tracking and working correctly. But, it just couldn’t be. So, I pushed back and was told that I’d need to get the order number, amount spent and date of purchase for every order I thought was missing from the tracking. I started by sending one order, asking whether that would trigger a proper investigation to which I received no answer, instead, was told that the information had been sent to the brand who would take between 4 and 6 weeks to get back to me.

So, then I got mad. Just the absolute casual, standard-format, no curiosity, stock answer to legitimate concern. And I did get the order numbers, date of purchase and amount spent from (at the current time) of over 180 people who kindly responded to my Instagram and Twitter call out. I didn’t even put it on the blog so there will be more – not everyone uses those platforms. It took just short of 12 hours and was a joint effort between me and the kind people who responded who had to go to the absolute faff of cutting and pasting or screen grabbing. I also brought the entire thing to Twitter and Instagram. It’s not something I normally do preferring to use my channels for beauty product topics. But, I had by this time started to get a lot of messages from others saying the same thing had happened to them – that affiliate payments were going missing. I also got messages from independent affiliate managers, saying something is not right.

Reward Style works as a sub-network – it makes using affiliates easy – imagine having separate links for hundreds of brands – with Reward Style you can generate a link from their bank of thousands of brands. Brands pay roughly 10-15% of their sales generated through an affiliate link, while the blogger or influencer will take approximately 10% (it’s very variable and that’s generous) leaving 5% to the agency. So, they have to work in volume and with a lot of brands. All agencies work to regions – that’s not unusual, but being able to generate a link implies that affiliate linking is available. Having talked with a couple of independent affiliate agents, it seems that a possible scenario is that Reward Style never saw sales going to Pat McGrath (which fits with the fact that when I raised the issue, they saw nothing amiss) because when sales went from the UK to the Pat McGrath site the affiliate manager at Pat’s end hadn’t flagged them to Reward Style as order sales and just dismissed over 2.5k links – but of course, happily took the sales. But, we don’t know. It’s one possibility in a whole chain of possibilities. The other thing to mention is that there used to be an affiliate arrangement with the UK. Nobody knows when this stopped.

Mid-way though the afternoon I got a message from a Global Director for Social Media from another (competitor) brand (out of the blue – we haven’t been in contact for years) who wanted to know what had happened. So I told her. She then put the UK Reward Style Team in touch with me (previously I had been dealing with the US) within the hour I had an email saying this shouldn’t have happened and they were investigating. Later in the evening I received an email from the US Team saying the matter had been escalated to the brand (Pat McGrath) that day (so, bypassing the 4-6 weeks as previously mentioned). By the next morning, I had an email waiting saying that the Pat McGrath affiliate scheme was not available to the UK (despite providing a link and despite paying out on the initial 4 – in pounds sterling) but they were advocating for payment. My few sales may well have been US sales but there is no way to tell.

I queried why I’d been able to generate a link (in USD but that’s not particularly unusual) and the answer was so that US audiences could buy from my link and I would be paid out on those. At no time, in generating the link, was it flagged not for UK based users. Obviously, I don’t have much of a US audience. I subsequently hear that other bloggers have been told – this day – by Reward Style that they are now not paying out to any UK based bloggers on Nordstrom, which clearly favours US content creators over UK. There are UK bloggers whose audiences are largely from the US and now the rule appears to be where the content is based, not where the audience is based. The irony of all of this is where you are based should be entirely irrelevant – working to regions seems to be at odds with the entire point of the internet.

The entire affiliate business is questionable – it’s a barrier between content creators and brands who should have their own in-house systems so that they don’t lose touch with the actual real people who send so many consumers to their sites.  We (and therefore you) are literally just numbers to them – cheap marketing if you like (where a little adds up to a lot), and because we are all so good at it, affiliate agencies will continue to exist. I’ve had many brands contacting me in a 48 hour period – now everyone knows about this. They do not realise how they are represented when they hand over to an agency.

However, I can’t let all the blame fall to Reward Style because of the aforementioned possible scenario. I don’t think I will ever know the truth of it all but wanted to thank those of you who sent your details with an account of why you were asked to do it. I always offer a non-affiliate link which you are welcome to use. I don’t push on affiliates – my space needs to be one where nobody feels pressured but I know that many readers gladly support bloggers specifically using affiliate links (which is kind and noted) so it’s a blow for them too. My total earnings from RS come to around £100 a month which is low but it can be very lucrative depending upon which category you work in. There are also occasional surprises (like the £36 commission from a luxury face cream I’d never heard of, never mind actually featured) so earnings can go up or down. The £4 commission (although I think I will eventually see the rest, but who knows – things are still on-going) wasn’t worth it I promise!

I’m using a picture of me to remind them that it’s a human here – not a number.

 


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32 responses to “Affiliates, Anomalies and Explanations”

  1. Really interesting, as someone just starting out beauty blogging and who has signed up with a couple of agencies it’s really good to have a bit more information on how it can all go wrong. Sorry this happened to you, very disappointing.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      thanks Karen, glad it’s helpful.

  2. Donna

    WOW!!! All cloak and dagger! Yes, Jane, you do always give a none affiliated link for your readers which many do not. I did not buy this time from Pat McGrath sale but did the last month when the Ecstasy palettes where first £11.

    Speaking about the UK vs US links a few times on Temptalia when a new limited release from Pat McGrath she had links for 10% off. I noticed the discount never worked for me tried both through her link and just going directly to the PMCG site. Usually, Christine will put the US only when posting about discounts.

    So these companies happy for you to put up links for people to buy but not paying you. Very shady

    1. Jane Cunningham

      Thanks Donna x

    2. Sebastian

      Well worth flagging up to Christine if you haven’t already – it seems very unlike her to purposely not label something correctly/transparently.

      It’s all very shady and alarming.

      1. Jane Cunningham

        exactly, she wouldn’t – she is super transparent x

  3. Cal

    Gosh that’s grim. Good on you for your persistence (and the admirably clear explanation here).
    I’m not surprised in a way though, as the nature of your job seems to me to invite less than transparent chancers to exploit it.
    I think you should send this to Anna Timms at The Guardian, their consumer affairs investigative journo. The amount going unpaid could be very large, across the various blogs out there.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      Thanks Cal 🙂

  4. Lizzie

    I’m really glad your questions are finally starting to reach the right people. Obviously we should give the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes this behaviour can look a little shady. I hope Pat McGrath comes through for you given all of the orders sent their way by you and others.

    Also that’s a lovely photo.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      ah thank you!

  5. I think the sad truth is this happens more than we realise, we won’t ever really know what tags as a sake via a link and what doesn’t and you get what you get and that’s your lot… but well done for flagging it, it’s amazing what bloggers working together can achieve and whether you are owed £4 or £40,000 you’ve earned that money and it should be yours, there should be no “oh well the UK can’t benefit from the US” not quite sure it says so in many of the terms I’ve read and if it is the case, as you say, the link shouldn’t be allowed to have been created in the first place, after all you’ve done said Brand a huge favour!

    They possibly benefitted for more sales than they ordinarily would have done otherwise and they don’t pay you for the time it takes to create the link and it isn’t something you have to do, there has to be some recompense for that at least or eventually all use of affiliate links will slowly die a death because it’s becomes more of a faff than it already is.

  6. Lisey

    Hi Jane – thanks for the detailed explanation. I make a point of using affiliate links where possible, as I feel it ‘pays’ (in a very small way) for the free content I enjoy so much. I had already seen the Pat McGrath sale but specifically came to your site to use the affiliate link. So it’s pretty annoying if that was a waste of my time. Incidentally, I also had ads on my Instagram about the Pat McGrath sale – I wonder if Instagram would have received some kind of affiliate payment if I’d clicked through from there? Have a lovely weekend.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      Thanks Lisey – it’s so disappointing because everyone is let down here – readers who do their best to support as well as content creators.

  7. Jo

    Very disappointing for your readers and for you. I was seriously considering buying 2 of the big palettes if I like the little ones when they arrive, but I certainly shan’t now.
    Worth mentioning that it’s probably not deliberately shady from anybody involved – I’ve worked for an American company for nearly 20 years and the level of global ignorance is both enduring and genuinely breath-taking – “wait, there’s a world beyond the USA?! Are you sure? I’m not sure…Hey Bob, you ever heard of this so-called Europe?!” It’s not ill-intentioned, it’s just unthinking blinkers.
    Ultimately Europe is perceived as a very small fish for most American businesses, purely on volume of market and therefore they tend not to devote much thought or effort to it…I suspect that those which buck that trend, do so largely on the efforts and perseverance of their local teams! Jo 🙂
    P.S. please tell me where to email an order screenshot to you, your blog story was literally the only reason I placed an order with these guys!! And it wasn’t a huge order, but the next one would have been if they hadn’t messed you about! Still, their attitude has saved me £160…

    1. Jane Cunningham

      Thanks Jo – and I hear you on the blinkered front .. but it’s more bothersome that we literally are just numbers everywhere. The content creator scene is absolutely huge in the US compared to here so my numbers to them would look inconsequential I am sure. I would say, all this aside, that you would probably enjoy the make up – this doesn’t affect the fact that it is amazing stuff but wait til your smaller palettes arrive and then decide for yourself. Personally, I think palettes at that level are risky because of the colours you don’t use so you might be better to invest in a few singles that you know you will wear and adore. Please don’t worry about sending the order number – if they aren’t tracking everything that came through the link that they can see now, they never will.

  8. Marilene

    I have made an order after reading your blog announcement on 4th July 2020 of 1 Ecstasy eyeshadow palette and 1 mini lip Fetish lip balm trio from Pat McGrath. I took screenshots of the confirmed order. The money has been transferred, I never received an confirmation email or when my order will be delivered. Now I’m getting concerned about it.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      The issues here shouldn’t affect you as a consumer so don’t worry 🙂

      1. Marilene Estoppey-von Negelein

        Thank you. By now I have received my order & am happy with all of it.

        It is a shame how Pat McGrath businesses is handling this circumstance. After having read your last statement today 18. July, I feel very mixed about ordering from a brand, where they don’t acknowledge 3rd parties, who do the work linking & raising the awareness for customers to consider they may want to buy products. This certainly was my case as without your blog, I wouldn’t have known.

        1. Jane Cunningham

          Thanks Marilene – it’s very frustrating, but I hope you enjoy your products 🙂

  9. Carla

    I have ordered a mini palette through your link and I am going to receive it on Monday delivered by courier. After reading your article I’m thinking of returning it to sender, but I’m worried this might reduce your £4 earnings! Thank you for your always interesting, honest and wonderfully written blog.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      Thank you Carla! Honestly, stick with your order – the issues here don’t affect the product, which is great, so use it and enjoy it 🙂

  10. Sarah

    I’m so shocked. I know, I must be very naive. Good for you, Jane, for pushing and not just going away. I do hope you will be given the money you deserve and have earned.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      thank you Sarah x

  11. Honey McKinley

    Thank you for putting all that on your blog so people like us understand what’s going on. I will always use an affiliate where possible as you’ve gone to the effort of testing and writing about it so if you get something back from me buying then that’s all to the good, much like using Amazon Smile rather than just Amazon – doesn’t give me anything but benefits someone else. I think I expected the odd discrepancy, in the same way that periodically I have to chase Quidco for not paying me for purchases and they claim the merchant said I returned or cancelled the order when I didn’t, but not on that huge scale. You always put affiliate and non-affiliate so the readers don’t feel obliged to “pay” you for their purchase so it seems ridiculous that affiliate links aren’t always paid and there is no realistic way of you chasing them as you can’t prove how many people ordered via the link or the amounts they spent. I hope you get a good result on this and have opened the eyes of brand managers who didn’t know about this and might be wondering why bloggers aren’t linking to them or people boycotting them for something they don’t know about.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      I think the whole affiliate thing is shrouded in mystery – and it’s so complicated at this end that it’s really hard to make sense of it so it’s not surprising that it’s often viewed with suspicion by readers/viewers who think content creators are always raking it in. Some do but they are few and far between – it’s always been my stance not to push for sales (not my job to sell!) and to offer non-affiliate links as well and view any affiliate earnings as a bonus towards the tax bill, not an ‘earning’ as such. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens ;-))

  12. Sian

    How frustrating for you! I purposefully used your affiliate link. In my head it was my way of saying thank you for the heads up about the sale as I would have never known otherwise. I hope you get what you earned as im sure a lot of people bought off the back of your post.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      Thank you Sian xx

  13. Nicola Murdock

    Well that has completely put me off using this brand. But I have to wonder how many other brands are being this shady. Really sucks for the people whe have helped for so long to put th em out there too .. sorry this has happened but great you have highighted the issue for all to see.
    Takes a strong woman to stand up to these people Jane – Respect!!

    1. Jane Cunningham

      Thank you Nicola :-))

  14. YI

    Hi Jane, I purchased a lip balm too based on your blog post and clicked through on the affiliate link. I’m sorry to hear that this happened to you. Sounds well dodgy to me.

    1. Jane Cunningham

      thank you for letting me know 🙂

  15. Wow! That’s so annoying. I’ve tried to dabble in affiliate marketing but there doesn’t seem much benefit for me.

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